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    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 9 Week 13: Celts vs Chinese

    July 29, 2020

    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 9 Week 13: Celts vs Chinese

    Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 9 Week 13: Celts vs Chinese

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 09:20 PM PDT

    Two OG favorites!

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    Hello and welcome back for another Age of Empires 2 civilization match up discussion! This is a series where we discuss the various advantages, disadvantages, and quirks found within the numerous match ups of the game. The goal is to collectively gain a deeper understanding of how two civilizations interact with each other in a variety of different settings. Feel free to ask questions, pose strategies, or provide insight on how the two civilizations in question interact with each other on any map type and game mode. This is not limited to 1v1 either. Feel free to discuss how the civilizations compare in team games as well! So long as you are talking about how the two civilizations interact, anything is fair game! Last week we discussed the Aztecs vs Persians, and next up is the Celts vs Chinese!

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    Celts: Infantry and Siege civilization

    • Infantry move +15% faster
    • Lumberjacks work +15% faster
    • Siege weapons fire +20% faster
    • Sheep will convert so long as within Celt unit LoS
    • TEAM BONUS: Siege Workshops work +20% faster
    • Unique Unit: Woad Raider (Fast moving powerful infantry)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Stronghold (Castles and towers fire +20% faster)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Furor Celtica (Siege Workshop units +40% hp)

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    Chinese: Archer Balanced civilization

    • Start with +3 Villagers; but -50w, -200f
    • Techs cost -10/15/20% in Feudal/Castle/Imperial Age
    • Town Centers support 10 population; have +5 LoS
    • Demolition Ships +50% hp
    • TEAM BONUS: Farms +45 food
    • Unique Unit: Chu Ko Nu (Powerful archer with rapid-fire attack)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Great Wall (Walls and Towers +30% hp)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Rocketry (Chu Ko Nu +2 attack; Scorpions +4 attack)

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    Below are some match up-specific talking points to get you all started. These are just to give people ideas, you do not need to address them specifically if you do not want to!

    • Alright, classic one here! For 1v1 Arabia, although both civs are considered quite good, Chinese would seem to be a bit stronger on paper. Their tech tree and eco bonuses mean they can handle pretty much any situation, whereas Celts are much more 1-dimensional. However, Celt siege can smash Chinese if they can get to it, and their powerful eco can keep them afloat for a while. Who do you favor?
    • On closed maps, Chinese used to be more popular than Celts until they lost Redemption. Nowadays, I feel like both civs are similar in strength overall. However, in this particular match up, Chinese would struggle in my eyes, as Celts can more reliably get to SO + Woads - something Chinese can't really answer. Thoughts?

    Thanks as always for participating! Next week we will continue our discussions with the Byzantines vs Vietnamese. Hope to see you there! :)

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    Previous discussions: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

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    Playing arena be like

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:11 AM PDT

    We all played our first game once

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 07:00 AM PDT

    Low IQ Legends

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 06:54 PM PDT

    Not gonna lie. I'm the team mate

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 02:37 PM PDT

    You could say the pond generation on Cenotes was sort of unbalanced in favor of my opponent

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 06:45 AM PDT

    Meso Soup

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 01:33 PM PDT

    Interesting bug of the day ��

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 07:06 AM PDT

    *** ** **** *** **** ***** *******

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 11:05 PM PDT

    Why does this game have such a ******* censoring? It censors practically anything. Is there a way to turn it off?

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    Announcement: Crikey Cup #3 is this weekend, $50 Australian community cups

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 08:51 PM PDT

    This weekend is going to be the third installment of the Crikey Cup, now with two divisions! A tournament for the Australian Prime-Time!

    On Friday 6pm AEST there will be the Open Division! Socksy and robo_boro are defending against 4 newcomers for a chance to win the $50 first place prize!

    On Saturday 3pm AEST will be the Low Elo Legend division, with a 1300 Elo cutoff! 8 players will battle for a chance at the $50 first place prize!

    If you want to play in either divisions, please sign up here if you havn't already, and be in "Waiting for Matches" on the official Australia/New Zealand discord at 6pm Friday SHARP or 3pm Saturday SHARP!

    All games on both days will be streamed on my twitch!

    Sign up form: https://forms.gle/xmBqN65pA95bW8WCA
    Discord: https://discord.gg/D2nvxDw
    Twitch: https://twitch.tv/guntherstudios

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    Hope to see you there!

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    There is no point in saying the game is for noobs.

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 07:03 AM PDT

    The difference between having noobs in the game name and forbid noobs in the game name.

    You get less noobs when you ask for noobs. :)

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    Are Turks any good?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 06:51 AM PDT

    I'm Kurdish so I never tried the Turks by principle and I most likely never will, bu that doesn't stop the fact that I am quite interested in knowing if janissaries are actually way better than hand canonneers and if their modern gunpowder style army can stand up to archer or cavalry civs.

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    *seagull sounds*

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 10:14 AM PDT

    Ranked Map Rotation – July 28

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 08:11 PM PDT

    Different metas

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 03:54 PM PDT

    anyone else getting tired of facing the same civs all the time?

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 06:50 PM PDT

    seriously idk if people on my timezone are just specially keen on the meta or maybe the 1.2k unscapable pit I find myself but all my Matches be team games or 1v1 have either :

    Franks(all the time on Arabia)

    britons (even on Baltic somehow)

    Mongols(Arabia or arena pick you flavour of mangudai)

    Ethiopians (yay more Archer civs)

    Mayans (because the game needed cheaper Archers somewhere)

    seriously even though goths have a lot of playrste I never find them, and let's not even talk about malians, Bulgarians, tatars, Koreans or even Chinese.

    nope it's archers and Frank's, archers and Frank's, and the occasional cuman who basically plays like a Frank with faster paladin.

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    Does anybody have some good AOE Whatsapp stickers they can share?

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 04:47 PM PDT

    Thanks!

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    When your scout passing enemy's TC

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 07:53 PM PDT

    Where can I download maps?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 07:44 AM PDT

    I'm looking for Snake Forest and also the old Michi map from the HD version.

    Thanks!

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    Quick walling masterclass by ��

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 02:17 PM PDT

    How would you describe the different player types?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 07:14 AM PDT

    It's very obvious that different players have different play styles that they thrive in. Compare someone like Vivi (before the tower nerfs of DE) to someone like Viper or someone like Daut.

    Do you think we can think of a list of play styles or perhaps even better player types together? How would you describe the play(er) styles/types and where do you see their strengths and weaknesses.

    As a comparison, here's a random footballer categorization example: dribbler, workhorse, technician, poacher, ballplayer, etc...

    (I'm thinking about 1300 1v1 elo and upwards, as that should guarantee that the play styles don't just depend on the opposing player not producing vils continuously.)

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    Gameweek 3 fixtures for The Civilization League are done. See what your favourite civilization will be going into battle against. Links to the Guide to the Civilization League and Gameweek 2 results and standings can be found in the comments.

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 07:26 PM PDT

    Are franks considered a noob civ, are they considered good?

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 04:16 PM PDT

    I'm 948 elo right now and i'm starting to like franks more and more.

    They are know for their knight line, but they do so much more so well: great economy, great options for dealing with pikes (axemen, heavy scorps, champions, hand cannoneers), good siege includng bombard cannon. They are an really complete civ as opposed to the myth of them being just a knight civ, and they're really good at complementing their knights, which is just one of their powerhouse options.

    I just wonder why you don't see more of them in the competitive scene since to me they seem so powerfull, and why they are dismissed as a noob civ that is easy to deal with (tough i agree they're really easy to play with).

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    Look familiar?

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 11:49 AM PDT
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