Age of Empires II The chamberlain whispered lies into the Dauphin's ear

The chamberlain whispered lies into the Dauphin's ear
But what am I doing wrong? Sorry I don't have recs to show you. Any advice?
The Camel Problem
We value courtesy in AoE2
Does anyone know the approximate ELO equivalent for the AI at each difficulty?
What's your twitch power level?
Spanish Players Maps Be like
How to quickly delete allied buildings
The chamberlain whispered lies inot the Dauphin's ear... (template in comments)
With the announcement of king of the desert and Redbull, this has been the biggest esports year ever for aoe2 by far
Best deathball for FFA Arabia or Arena?
On the society section of the post-game stats page, total TCs should replace total wonders since wonders are never built in competitive games
Bad habits: Appending soldiers into a villager control group
Learning the hotkeys... what should I learn now?
Worth to buy AoE II: HD Edition?
Getting specific data from Aoe2.net
I compiled all the boar(ing) videos I could find to one playlist
When the AI just won't abdicate
Most fun Custom / Real World map?
Solution to 8-minute walling meta: more wolves!
Let's just stand here. Menacingly. victory screen doesn't pop up :(
Deathmatch WorldCup 3 Main Stage Final / Post-Match Thread

The chamberlain whispered lies into the Dauphin's ear

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 07:38 PM PDT

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But what am I doing wrong? Sorry I don't have recs to show you. Any advice?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 12:10 AM PDT

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The Camel Problem

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 10:48 PM PDT

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We value courtesy in AoE2

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 09:38 AM PDT

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Does anyone know the approximate ELO equivalent for the AI at each difficulty?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 05:18 AM PDT

For example, if I'm playing against the AI on Hard difficulty, approximately what would its ELO be if it were a real player?

Curious for all difficulties, really. Especially because I believe the recent patch changed some things about how the AI plays.

Thanks.

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What's your twitch power level?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 07:00 AM PDT

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Spanish Players Maps Be like

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 02:00 AM PDT

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How to quickly delete allied buildings

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 06:11 AM PDT

So, I just had the worst 4v4 Arabia. Situation was post imp with Chinese. Had the perfect unit comp (chuks+heavy camel + siege ram) with over 50 trade carts. My pocket was doing nothing except stonewalling his base and getting fortified wall. It was no problem tho, because I already took out one pocket player and was pushing my flank.

However, my pockets fortified wall cut right through the tradeline and my trade went all the way around through the front lines. I lost over 40 trade carts to FRIGGIN skirmishers. I pinged, I asked nicely, I raged and I despaired but my pocket would not react to my biddings to delete a single wall tile.

In the end i had to research onager to tear through his walls (both sides) with attack ground. Which, obviously, took forever And we lost.

My question now (also TLDR): is there any possibility to tear down allied buildings faster than onagers? Would trebs work? Could u just get some Petards and delete them next to the wall?

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The chamberlain whispered lies inot the Dauphin's ear... (template in comments)

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 11:50 PM PDT

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With the announcement of king of the desert and Redbull, this has been the biggest esports year ever for aoe2 by far

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 10:12 AM PDT

So far, there has been $183,000 in prize pool awarded so far in the year, with another $80,000 already announced, the biggest year previously was 2015 at $200k. this is the biggest prize year for aoe 2 ever in the games history. Hopefully this pace keeps up and even more organizers join in!

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Best deathball for FFA Arabia or Arena?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 04:37 AM PDT

What is the best deathball and how does it work? I heard Mongols but I don't get how their mangudai are good as they are worse than huns cav archers.

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On the society section of the post-game stats page, total TCs should replace total wonders since wonders are never built in competitive games

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 10:44 AM PDT

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Bad habits: Appending soldiers into a villager control group

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 07:34 AM PDT

I recently started putting my villagers into control groups as I've seen many pros do such as putting villagers under the TC into control group 2 and the villager luring the boar into control group 3.

However I have a bad habit where I tend to append rather than create a control group. This is because shift is much easier for me to press than ctrl. Because of this I often end up appending militia or archers into my village control group and dragging them away from their work across the map.

As a result of this I've gone back to not using control groups for my villagers.

Has anyone encountered this? I know it sounds easy to fix but muscle memory is very hard to change.

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Learning the hotkeys... what should I learn now?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 06:43 AM PDT

So I learned all the most common hotkeys for eco (build villagers, farms, houses, etc) now I lack hotkeys for the military.

What should I learn first? Should I learn the hotkeys to build the military buildings, or is better to learn the hotkeys to select these building first?

I think is not a silly question because learning to build fast may help to be ready faster, but actually learning to select these building fast may help to have a steady production queue over the time.

Yeah, I like to focus only on one thing before making the next step, so what is more in important in your opinion?

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Worth to buy AoE II: HD Edition?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 03:14 AM PDT

This may come up as a silly question, buy I really wanted to buy AoE II: DE on Steam. However, I'm still using Windows 8.1. And since upgrading my computer is (right now) impossible, I was wondering if buying the HD Edition would be worth it? I know that it's not supported anymore, it doesn't have balance updates, etc.

As someone who only played AoE III when I was a child and liked it, would it be a good investment?

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Getting specific data from Aoe2.net

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 05:17 AM PDT

Hi, ill like ot make a ranking with my team elos and tgelos. does anyone know if there is a way to obtain those automatically without looking for each member score on aoe2.net or discord bot "Wololo"? Thanks in advance

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I compiled all the boar(ing) videos I could find to one playlist

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 05:09 AM PDT

Hello,

I don't know if anyone wanted this or asked for this but I got the idea to compile all the numerous boar videos on YouTube I could find and put them to one playlist. There are definitely a lot of videos about the AoE2 boar: how to lure it, the mechanics of it, how to save a villager, how to lame a boar, etc, etc. Some are as long as over 20 minutes and some are as short as 30 seconds. I did not include videos that were just clips from streams or matches or which I found redundant in the context of the other videos (even so, this playlist amounts to no less than 16 videos!).

Here it is! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK-9Aa5CBPHb7RaqsUXOYCqJuXmi-1jpE 1

The videos per chronological order and short descriptions:

2012-03-28 "Zero to Hero - The Boar Lure" - by ZeroEmpires

Duration: 05:14

This video predates both Definitive Edition as well as the HD Edition (or what is now called the 2013 Edition). It is certainly nostalgic to see the good old low res graphics and large trees.

2015-08-27 "Boar in AoE2" - by Spirit of The Law

Duration: 17:07

On everything from "should you lure boar" to "why there's no optimal time for loom". A decent amount of numbers and rates guaranteed!

2016-03-01 "Fancy (Dangerous) Boar Luring Trick" - by Spirit of The Law

Duration: 06:43

Introduction to the way (and dangers) of shooting the boar with the Town Centre.

2017-01-17 "TheViper's Tip of the Day - #2: Save your Forgotten Boar luring Villager!" - by TheViper

Duration: 00:57

How to save a dying villager using building foundations.

2017-03-24 "Aoe2 Bugs, Glitches, and Fun - Episode 1: How to Steal Boar Using Relics" - by T-West

Duration: 02:46

An explanation of the relevance of Gaia Line of Sight concerning boar lures.

2019-10-29 "Easy To Advanced Guide #2 | The Perfect Boar Steal NO HP LOST!" - by MBL

Duration: 03:14

How to in Voobly lame a boar mid-lure with an eagle-scout.

2019-11-29 "Aoe2 DE: Why Boar Gather Points are More Difficult to Set" - by T-West

Duration: 02:00

Boar luring difficulties in the early DE days. NB: this phenomenon is no longer present in any version of AoE2.

2019-02-18 "AoE2 Boar & Gaia Secrets!" - by T90Official

Duration: 06:22

An explanation of how boar LOS works as well as a showcase of the phenomenon being exploited in competitive gameplay.

2019-11-12 "Aoe2 DE: You Only Need to Shoot the Boar Once" - by T-West

Duration: 02:23

Another look into how the boar behaviour changed with the release of the Definitive Edition. NB: some behaviour described in the video is now only present in older versions of AoE2 (concerning how many arrows do what).

2019-11-19 "75% of Players Don't Do This! (and they should)" - by ZeroEmpires

Duration: 24:21

This almost half hour long video shows everything from various degrees of luring and mechanics to relevant civ bonuses.

2020-01-29 "Aoe2 DE: Town Centers Can Hunt Boar for Food" - by T-West

Duration: 02:14

Another short peculiarity of the Definitive Edition boar was the ability to kill it with military and Town Centres and still be able to collect food from it. NB: this phenomenon is no longer present in any version of AoE2.

2020-05-14 "Luring Boar - Two Minutes Or Less" - by Forgotten Empires

Duration: 01:14

From the developers themselves, community manager Matthew Turk describes what a boar is and the basics of how to get it back to your Town Centre.

2020-07-25 "What makes a successful boar lure?" - by Hjörleif

Duration: 00:30

This half minute video gives you in a nutshell what you should want in the typical boar lure.

2020-07-25 "How to lure a boar in AoE2 shown in 45 seconds or less (garrison method)"

Duration: 00:44

How to lure a boar by garrisoning and ejecting your villagers. This video uses plenty of arrows and frame freezes to help visualise what is being explained.

2020-07-29 "How to lure a boar in AoE2 shown in 45 seconds or less (basic method)" - by Hjörleif

Duration: 00:44

This video is pretty much identical to the previous one but shows probably the more conventional way of only garrisoning the luring villager.

2020-08-03 "How to lure boar like TheViper shown in 60 seconds or less" - by Hjörleif

Duration: 01:00

This was made based on how popular competitive player TheViper plays. Like the former videos, arrows and frame freezes are heavily used in an attempt to make the video clearer. While perfectly intelligible in one go on its own, the video is full of sidenotes and pause reading for the viewer who wants to know more or is new to some things.

I hope I'm not the only one who found the rich supply of boar videos interesting 11

Cheers,Hjörleif

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When the AI just won't abdicate

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 07:50 AM PDT

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Most fun Custom / Real World map?

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 03:41 AM PDT

What's your favourite? And what is the most fun in a human team against bots?

Personal favourite is Snake Forest. Sucks the AI doesn't understand how to play it properly.

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Solution to 8-minute walling meta: more wolves!

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 05:31 PM PDT

Title is pretty self-explanatory.

Everyone, myself included, has been complaining about the meta being too defensive and players just full walling their bases within the first 5 minutes and skipping through the feudal age entirely seemingly without suffering any consequences. This has been especially infuriating for the scout meta, which is now pretty much useless when your opponent is full walled.

I've seen numerous proposed solutions to address this issue, like making palisade walls more expensive or slower to build to increase the negative effect walling has on a player's economy, the devs opting for more aggressive and open maps in the map pools, giving palisades less hp and nerfing quick-walling so that melee units can break through the walls quicker. I now have a more nature-themed solution to either delay, de-incentivize, or flat-out prevent players from walling so early and so often: wolves.

Maps being scripted to have wolves/bears/crocodiles/jaguars/etc... spawn more frequently, especially around forests and ponds, has the following three (in my humble opinion positive) effects:

its more risky to wall, especially when your villagers don't have loom. Players who choose to wall do so at the risk of losing a villager or having it be low-HP and susceptible to getting sniped. The fear of losing a villager will be a negative incentive for players considering walling too early (before loom).
Its more expensive to wall. If players use multiple villagers to wall and double-team wolves, that's two villagers who aren't collecting resources. If players get loom and then start walling, they'd still have to fight the wolf off before continuing to build, adding time to the wall's construction and less time the villager spends collecting resources.
Building walls will be delayed. Villagers fighting wolves or waiting until loom kicks in to start constructing the wall can extend the period of time where they're not fully-walled by just enough for a drush, scout rush, or man at arms rush to prompt them to use units to defend and not buildings

I know this raises a few concerns, including but not limited to:

What if a wolf attacks my villager while its luring a boar/making a mill for berries or deer/making a mining or lumber camp? - Wolf spawn locations can be controlled to spawn a good few tiles away from boar, or boar could spawn a bit closer to the initial TC so as to not be near any wolves. With that said, it might be tricky to get wolves to spawn far enough from forests to not aggro on vills building lumber camps but close enough to aggro on vills building walls. I'm open to suggestions about this one here.
Won't this create a new strategy where the opponent sends one militia, aggros a bunch of wolves, and leads them to my base? - possibly, but this can be fixed either by wolves not aggroing on dark-age military units or just fighting the wolves. They don't do much damage and it won't be like golden pit where all the wolves spawn in one central area. The 175 wood for an early barracks, 60 food, 20 gold your opponent spends on creating the militia and time it takes for the militia to go around forests finding wolves is a pretty expensive combination to get a few villagers down by 15 hp. At that point just drush instead.
Won't this deincentivize drushing? - This is the only downside I'm concerned about, but seeing as the usual drush strat is to drush, full wall, and fast castle, I think fewer people will drush period regardless of how the walling meta is fixed or changed. If it really is a big problem for drushing and we see 0 drushes in the meta, then wolves can be programed to not aggro on dark age military units.

So that's my 1200 1v1, 2k1 tg viewpoint on changing the walling meta without breaking anything else. What are your guys' thoughts?

- Zeza

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Let's just stand here. Menacingly. victory screen doesn't pop up :(

Posted: 03 Aug 2020 02:55 AM PDT