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    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 9 Week 10: Ethiopians vs Mayans

    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 9 Week 10: Ethiopians vs Mayans


    Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 9 Week 10: Ethiopians vs Mayans

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 08:21 PM PDT

    This archer match up discussion is brought to you by Ornlu's BIG NOMAD Cup! :P

    Hello and welcome back for another Age of Empires 2 civilization match up discussion! This is a series where we discuss the various advantages, disadvantages, and quirks found within the numerous match ups of the game. The goal is to collectively gain a deeper understanding of how two civilizations interact with each other in a variety of different settings. Feel free to ask questions, pose strategies, or provide insight on how the two civilizations in question interact with each other on any map type and game mode. This is not limited to 1v1 either. Feel free to discuss how the civilizations compare in team games as well! So long as you are talking about how the two civilizations interact, anything is fair game! Last week we discussed the Burmese vs Koreans, and next up is the Ethiopians vs Mayans!

    Ethiopians: Archer civilization

    • Archers fire +18% faster
    • Receive +100f, +100g upon reaching the next Age
    • Pikeman upgrade free
    • TEAM BONUS: Towers and Outposts +3 LoS
    • Unique Unit: Shotel Warrior (Fast-training, fragile infantry with massive attack)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Royal Heirs (Shotels train almost instantly)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Torsion Engines (Siege Workshop units increased blast radius)

    Mayans: Archer civilization

    • Start with +1 Villager, but -50f
    • Resources last +15% longer
    • Archers cost -10/20/30% per Age
    • TEAM BONUS: Walls cost -50%
    • Unique Unit: Plumed Archer (Fast, tanky archer)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Obsidian Arrows (Still unsure if OP or a meme)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: El Dorado (Eagle Warriors +40 hp)

    Below are some match up-specific talking points to get you all started. These are just to give people ideas, you do not need to address them specifically if you do not want to!

    • Archer time! So for your 1v1 Arabia, Mayans have always been considered top-tier, whereas Ethiopians are generally considered upper-mid-tier. Both have excellent archer bonuses, but Mayans have more impactful eco bonuses, as well as a generally more useful UU. However, Shotels can be devastating against Eagles, and have the important added benefit in being quick to switch into. Who do you favor?
    • On more closed maps, Mayans have somewhat fallen out of fashion whereas Ethiopians never got played much anyway, despite being at least decent lol. Here, Mayans can take map control with Plumes/Castles/Eagles, but Ethiopian siege could be a pretty difficult hurdle to overcome in the lategame. Who is better on your Arenas, Hideouts, and BFs?
    • In BoA2, both of these civs were among the most played flank civs on Arabia (and in general). It is pretty obvious why - both are powerful archer civs. However, imo they bring different benefits to their team: Mayans provide a smooth power curve throughout the game, but somewhat fall off in Imp, whereas Ethiopians are more focused on timing windows upon Aging up, but also have a way better lategame with their siege. Which do you prefer to take all the damage while you 5 tc boom?

    Thanks as always for participating! Next week we will continue our discussions with the Franks vs Huns. Hope to see you there! :)

    Previous discussions: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

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    AoE2: Definitely Definitive Edition

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 06:49 PM PDT

    AoE2: Definitely Definitive Edition

    Hi guys, this is my latest project called "AoE2: Definitely Definitive Edition". My goal is to achieve a realistic look for EACH building, and this is the first i've finish. I realised at the end that I can even make a night version! So there it is.

    I hope you like it guys. Feel free to share, comment, etc.

    Thanks!

    https://preview.redd.it/9ok2xk3kfj951.jpg?width=7680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1554b4b0166f2f82c188f64462bb4c29db57d403

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    submitted by /u/imrosalez_aoe_arg
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    Hahaha Huskarl self genocide goes Brrr

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 09:49 AM PDT

    Blast Damage

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 09:13 PM PDT

    Coaching Sessions 2nd Semester

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 03:36 AM PDT

    Hello everyone, I have started my second semester for Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition coaching and there are still room for four more students! Please contact me on Reddit (https://reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/g58lr4/coaching_sessions/), Discord (https://discord.gg/yeXYUH), or Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/f1reaoe) for additional info, available times and pricing.

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    https://www.twitch.tv/f1reaoe

    submitted by /u/TyRanT_F1Re
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    Requesting a dedicated page/site for info about past AoE2 tournaments

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 05:53 AM PDT

    With so many new players joining the community, it would be nice to know the past tournaments and performance of pros in them. Getting to know about major tournaments in the past would help the new players. We'll be able to look them up and watch the vods or youtube vids (Even better if the page has those links). I only found and watched the HCs, NACs and KoTDs but surely there have been many more.

    Recently the liquidpedia aoe2 page has been started so that seems like a prime spot (if anyone here is associated with that) to put this info up. Having the info here on r/aoe2 would be even better!

    submitted by /u/csgonemes1s
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    So sad to be a Peruvian these days....

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 11:11 PM PDT

    “How’s the new patch?” “You could say its... Fairly un-stable”

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 07:06 AM PDT

    Just beat the extreme AI for the first time :D

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 04:59 PM PDT

    What are your favorite inaccuracies?

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 04:23 AM PDT

    I think I am not the only one who really got into history because of Aoe, it is just a great example of a game both being entertaining and educational. However, obviously there are historical inaccuracies, because it would be impossible to have a balanced, but historically accurate game. I am happy about the way the game works right now, but I am also interested in your opinions. So what do you guys think are the greatest stretches Aoe takes to be playable rather than perfectly historically accurate?

    My favorite for example is giving trebs to the Mesoamerican civs, who otherwise would be effed in the b right as their enemies hit imp.

    submitted by /u/Barbar_jinx
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    Unit pathfinding still broken as shit ?

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 04:11 AM PDT

    I had like 30 cavaliers, the opponent had many halleb. I tried to attack the opponent's trebs with my cavalieers by right cliking on them (they were far behind the fight) and these ***** cavaliers were always going back to the hallebs, no matter I was cliking on the trebs like a psycho.

    Wtf, is this normal ? What should I've done to make this works ? tf is that shit man

    submitted by /u/InfectedFuture
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    Countless farms!

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 10:28 AM PDT

    Problem: last night i completed the first Sundjata campaign mission and unlocked the second one. Today i started the game and it's like nothing happened, no second mission unlocked. Any ideas why?

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 04:55 AM PDT

    I had the same issue with the berbers and ethiopians campaigns as well some weeks ago.

    Edit: I use DE

    submitted by /u/teoMouse
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    Lately I’ve had a string of games (1 in every 5 or 6) where the game just freezes, the internet works great, but nobody disconnects. Anyone else having this happen? Haven’t had this issue until the recent map pool update. UI goes blank too.

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 11:33 PM PDT

    QueepeR - Please Send me Champions / the Losing to Goth Anthem

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 04:53 PM PDT

    Anyone watch Hoang 2-0 on MBL stream

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 06:23 PM PDT

    Guys check out MBLs stream from July 1.

    It's like Hoang spend 3k games doing the same thing for this one moment.

    Mbl begins by talking about how Hoang does the same thing every game and is basically a bad player. Gets rekt in IMp vs Hoang boom.

    Mbl now says he's a one trick pony with celts. Next game hoang is Huns. I'll let you discover what happens next. Very entertaining. Love the anti meta play.

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    At least wall up when you have the chance

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 09:58 AM PDT

    Won with the most trashy tactic ...

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 07:39 AM PDT

    I'm around 1250 elo TG and 900 elo 1v1 (barely played any games too).

    I came up with this weird drush tactic, see for yourself, this is the first time I actually tried it against a human.

    https://filebin.net/hxwxupi12ucson8w

    submitted by /u/sharktales97
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    Best Opening to Lead into Knights?

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 07:29 AM PDT

    I'm just wondering what opening build would lead best into knights in 1v1 games (mostly looking at Arabia)? I'm afraid going scouts then leading up to knights would make your opponent invest into pikes which would be problematic for the knights once they get out.

    submitted by /u/EdibleAnimals
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    For those who go hatin' on Fatslob's 1v1 BF Vikings strat (long time lurker until now, thought this would be somewhat funny lmao)

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 07:23 AM PDT

    DARK AGE CUP - TheLilDrippin vs Linksi | Age of Empires 2 DE Game 1

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 05:55 AM PDT

    Where do I post an amazing replay?

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 11:53 PM PDT

    I just played a game vs WALL (he was in a T90 video but I didn't find out until after) and I did some really quick thinking with my limited skills to beat him as well as a very satisfying ending. I want to post this somewhere cause I'm hyped but I don't know where

    submitted by /u/Rockin1O1
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    Weird load screen. Game froze and never started.

    Posted: 07 Jul 2020 03:39 PM PDT

    Highest Achieved Rank: Gold, Silver, Bronze

    Posted: 08 Jul 2020 03:22 AM PDT

    What determines what rank you are? ELO? Rank or your win loss ratio? I'm currently at silver with 1402 elo in team game rm and 1080 at single player rm. Trying to reach gold in this game but there's is virtually no information on the bronze silver and gold frame around your avatar.

    submitted by /u/Shoplifta_
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