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    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 13 Week 12: Aztecs vs Slavs

    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 13 Week 12: Aztecs vs Slavs


    Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 13 Week 12: Aztecs vs Slavs

    Posted: 14 Dec 2021 10:44 PM PST

    Battle of the infantry+farming+siege+monks civs!

    Hello and welcome back for another Age of Empires 2 civilization match up discussion! This is a series where we discuss the various advantages, disadvantages, and quirks found within the numerous match ups of the game. The goal is to collectively gain a deeper understanding of how two civilizations interact with each other in a variety of different settings. Feel free to ask questions, pose strategies, or provide insight on how the two civilizations in question interact with each other on any map type and game mode. This is not limited to 1v1 either. Feel free to discuss how the civilizations compare in team games as well! So long as you are talking about how the two civilizations interact, anything is fair game! Last week we discussed the Bulgarians vs Malians, and next up is the Aztecs vs Slavs!

    Aztecs: Infantry and Monk civilization

    • Villagers carry +3
    • Military units created +11% faster
    • Monks gain +5 hp per Monastery tech researched
    • Start with +50g
    • TEAM BONUS: Relics generate +33% gold
    • Unique Unit: Jaguar Warrior (Powerful anti-infantry infantry)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Atlatl (Skirmishers gain +1 attack, +1 range)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Garland Wars (Infantry gain +4 attack)

    Slavs: Infantry and Siege civilization

    • Farmers work +10% faster
    • Supplies free
    • Siege Workshop units cost -15%
    • TEAM BONUS: Military buildings provide +5 population space
    • Unique Unit: Boyar (Heavily armored cavalry)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Orthodoxy (Monks gain +3/+3 armor)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Druzhina (Infantry deal 5 trample damage)

    Below are some match up-specific talking points to get you all started. These are just to give people ideas, you do not need to address them specifically if you do not want to!

    • Alrighty, as I alluded to in the beginning, these civs actually have a lot in common. But for 1v1 Arabia, Aztecs have been the king for the past 20 years, whereas Slavs are more seen as mid-tier. For Aztecs, their strengths are obvious in that they are one of the fastest civs in the game when it comes to early game aggression and economy. Slavs, however, are able to match Aztecs in many ways - trading access to Eagle Warriors with access to cavalry. How do you see this one playing out on Arabia?
    • On closed maps, both of these civs have plenty of space to shine. Aztecs are still a fast civilization, even in the context of Fast Castling. From there, they can take map control and relics, and then push for a quick Imperial Age. On top of that, they have the ability to boom, have access to great Monks and great siege. That said, Slavs have an incredibly strong economy themselves, and a plethora of options to wreck their opponents in the late game. Cheap siege is great in any situation, and Druzhina infantry can allow them to win the sorts of huge, pitched battles we so often see in the Imperial Age. How do you see this one going on Arena, Fortress, Hideout, etc.?
    • In team games, neither civ feels quite as comfy. Aztecs simply do not fit the archer+cavalry meta that is seen on most map types, as eagles tend to get smashed by heavy cavalry when Aztecs cannot apply pressure. That said, they are still strong off the bat and can make flank play work just fine with Arbs, Monks, and Eagles. Slavs, meanwhile, certainly prefer the pocket, where they have a fantastic boom and strong cavalry. Their issue comes from their overwhelming early game and lack of Paladin upgrade. Sure you have Boyars, but the transition to those is pretty slow. How do you see the dynamics of these civs working out in a TG setting?

    Thank you as always for participating! Next week we will continue our discussions with the Lithuanians vs Magyars. Hope to see you there! :)

    Previous discussions: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5

    (I just realized Majike updated the previous discussions for all the new civs and match ups!)

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    "Age of Emperors" mentioned in my college textbook

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:26 PM PST

    The duality of man

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 05:17 PM PST

    Them good ol "Infantry" civs.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 09:07 PM PST

    Saw this watching F1 this past weekend

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 02:55 PM PST

    Civ pick screen disappears and interface freezes when game found.

    Posted: 16 Dec 2021 12:10 AM PST

    Yes, if I'm on the pick civ screen when a game is found, the pick civ window disappears and I'm left with a locked 'match found screen' counting down - I can't even click ready. I'm then left with random civ. (Yes, I know , I should be random civ anyway, but I'm trying to focus on macro and strategy). I actually got Slavs and won so I read the tech tree a little more and picked them a couple more times. Work around. . .I select civ immediately , close pick civ window, wait until match Found, re pick civ based on map maybe.

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    A bit of demographics. Tell us your age bracket:

    Posted: 16 Dec 2021 03:10 AM PST

    You did it AoE2! You won my own personal Twitch recap. Awards are meaningless and this one moreso than most. Plus I mostly watch on Youtube.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 04:32 PM PST

    Why do AoE2 top players have such good manners, even when losing?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 02:43 AM PST

    Maybe a stupid question, but why do AoE2 top players have such good manners, even when losing?

    I'm specifically not going to mention the name of other multiplayer games or of players from other games, but I have seen many displays of bad manners in other areas. Players whining during a game, complaining afterwards, not saying GG, just quitting, even saying bg, flaming the opponent, crying about their own performanceor a supposedly overpowered strategy/civ/faction/unit etc.

    But in AoE2, on the top level, this never seems to happen. It didn't even happen before the game became so professional, so it's not just a professional facade or anything. Even when losing, both in tournaments and outside, AoE2 top players essentially always:

    - say GG

    - never justify their loss or complain or whine

    - often say WP / GL next round / congrats

    Why are they so gracious? Are we just lucky due to the people playing the game? Are they especially nice or mature?

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    Repairing damaged ships

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 05:03 PM PST

    Repairing ships is something I do when I play. I only play against the computer because that's how I like it, but I'd love for it to be less wonky.

    It would be sweet if they could idle near a dock and slowly repair, or garrison inside the dock a few at a time to "heal" like units in buildings do.

    Or simpler again, it would be sweet if I could repair them out on the water with fishing boats, trade cogs, transports etc, the non combat ships. It would beat having to bring them back to shore and micro the villagers into crammed spaces of shore line where I lose sight of them constantly.

    I know most people probably don't bother, but I thought it would be cool. I mean, after all, villagers can drop fish at the docks now, making it more real, so I know it's possible to tweak it.

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    What now?

    Posted: 16 Dec 2021 02:26 AM PST

    First post here, just realised for the first time since I've been following the scene (~2 years) that there isn't a tournament to look forward too. I know it's a bit dramatic but what's next for the aoe2 scene.

    Hope everyone's doing well :)

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    Player resigned just after I gg

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 04:47 AM PST

    Title says it all really, playing at 950elo get pretty well owned to the extent I'm gonna look back at the replay to see what I can learn. I gg and go to resign and other player resigns. Result a win and elo boost I don't deserve. guessing they are trying to drop elo so they can get a nice long streak by stomping people on their way back up (their profile does suggest this). Anyway Vent over time to practice my archer micro 11

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    I mean, I lost badly, but this felt good.

    Posted: 14 Dec 2021 06:52 PM PST

    Age of Empires 2 DE - Teutons Theme (HEAVY METAL GUITAR COVER)

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 01:05 PM PST

    Looking to get back into AOE2 after YEARS! Looking for fun people to play with

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:29 AM PST

    I remember absolutely being in love with the game back in 2008. We would play all night, every night on LAN. I downloaded the Definitive Edition recently and I am looking for people to play with and get back into the swing of things. I honestly don't really know my 'skill' level as such since I have not played online for so long. I thought this might be a better way to get back in the game, get to know people, and not ruin other people's experience because of my skill level.

    If you are interested in a couple of fun games with the hopes that we can play together longer term please don't hesitate to reach out! Jay

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    Anyone want to play 2vai with me on Moderate?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 06:15 PM PST

    Taking ages to find a game. Trying to learn the ropes, not done well in ranked lol. Sorry to those guys I temed with xD

    submitted by /u/RustyyMannn
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    Why isn’t there any high level team game tournaments anymore?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 03:11 AM PST

    I love all the 1v1 tournaments we get but watching team games is my favourite and it just doesn't happen anymore. There hasn't even been any casual team games from any of the top players.

    submitted by /u/Matt180890
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    AoE2 DE, Linux, Xbox sign-in

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 10:59 AM PST

    Hello everyone, as the title suggest - I'm trying to work out a way to sign into the Xbox account while on Linux. If the menu lead to a browser or something, it would be nice, but unfortunetely it leads to some Windows API stuff that can't be seemed to be bypassed.

    My question for other Linux users - is it possible to work around this with Wine, and just do a simple sign in (it can be janky).

    I'm sure this has been tried, so if you know something - post me to some resources.

    Thank you everyone.

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    Playing online graphics card

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 11:18 PM PST

    I recently downloaded voobly but whenever I try to load into a game it Kicks me and says my graphics card isn't compatible or something how do I fix this? Is this a problem with aoe2 or voobly?

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    Any Diplomacy players??

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 12:10 PM PST

    hey guys, ~970 1v1 elo here.. feeling rather inspired by some of t90's community games - I have a couple buddies who play aoe2 but I'm having difficulty filling an unranked lobby to do some regicide ffa matches. I'm curious if there's a thread on here or another site possibly where I could meet/make friends with some fellow age 2 players who would be interested in being part of weekly diplo/ffa games! thx in advance

    submitted by /u/Hoffman57
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    How to defend from trush+maa?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 04:17 PM PST

    I guess the main question is that should/when I mine stone. I've seen pros defend with walls, one tower, and maybe some archers and counter attacks, but I've seen also people mine stone themselves for a bunch of counter towers. Obviously not mining stone is greedy, and there is the risk of losing the game, so how can I know when to mine stone if any and how to defend from trush in general?

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    Hello community ! I need a little help. How do you find a replay ( disconneted IG)

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 10:12 PM PST

    My Game disconnected at end game and i'd really like to find the replay!
    Is there a way to restore it ?

    submitted by /u/reeditery
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    I miss Fortress :(

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:35 AM PST

    Small walls on arena!

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:39 PM PST

    Looking for 2v2 playing partners

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 09:25 AM PST

    Hey guys, I was looking for people to form a party to play ranked 2v2. Random people on queue barely ever even talk and it sucks!

    I just recently started playing, overing at around 750 RM (1v1)

    Anyone up for it hit me up

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