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    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 8 Week 1: Aztecs vs Cumans

    January 01, 2020

    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 8 Week 1: Aztecs vs Cumans

    Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 8 Week 1: Aztecs vs Cumans

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 11:21 PM PST

    A new year, a new round, and a whole new set of civs being introduced!!

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    Hello and welcome back for another Age of Empires 2 civilization match up discussion! This is a series where we discuss the various advantages, disadvantages, and quirks found within the numerous match ups of the game. The goal is to collectively gain a deeper understanding of how two civilizations interact with each other in a variety of different settings. Feel free to ask questions, pose strategies, or provide insight on how the two civilizations in question interact with each other on any map type and game mode. This is not limited to 1v1 either. Feel free to discuss how the civilizations compare in team games as well! So long as you are talking about how the two civilizations interact, anything is fair game! Last week we discussed the Byzantines vs Persians, and next up is the Aztecs vs Cumans!

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    Aztecs: Infantry and Monk civilization

    • Villagers carry +5
    • Military units created +15% faster
    • Monks +5 hp per Monastery tech researched
    • Start with +50g
    • TEAM BONUS: Relics generate +33% gold
    • Unique Unit: Jaguar Warrior (Heavy anti-infantry infantry)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Atlatl (Skirmishers +1 attack, +1 range)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Garland Wars (Infantry +4 attack)

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    Cumans: Cavalry civilization

    • Additional Town Center can be built in Feudal Age
    • Siege Workshop and Battering Ram available in Feudal Age
    • Cavalry move +5/10/15% faster in Feudal/Castle/Imperial Age
    • TEAM BONUS: Palisade Walls +50% hp
    • Unique Unit: Kipchak (Light cav archer that fires multiple arrows at once)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Steppe Husbandry (Light Cavalry and Cavalry Archers train really fast)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Cuman Mercenaries (Each team member can train 10 free Elite Kipchaks at Castle)

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    Below are some match up-specific talking points to get you all started. These are just to give people ideas, you do not need to address them specifically if you do not want to!

    • Believe it or not, this match up, round, and start of the year all happened coincidentally 11. Okay okay, so for 1v1 on an open map like Arabia or Gold Rush, we have the old guard vs the new guard. Aztecs hit hard and fast with their strong early game eco and military, and their monks, eagles, and farms allow them to continue that advantage throughout the game. Meanwhile, Cumans will be starting off more defensive, but even after the nerf, their additional TC can still put them a good 15+ vills ahead when both players reach Castle Age. On top of that, Steppe Lancers and Kipchaks. Whom do you favor?
    • On a closed map like Arena or Black Forest, both civilizations can leverage incredibly powerful economies to get up to their mid/late game armies faster than other civs. However, Aztecs critically lack cavalry, Cumans lack good Monks, and both miss gunpowder. How do these civs take advantage of this on these sorts of maps?

    Okay I think that's plenty to consider already haha. Thank you as always for participating! From now on, the new civilizations will be introduced into each round of discussion (which will also make them longer I suppose). This is done to make sure that we get through the match ups at a relatively even rate, without favoring any particular civ. So, be on the lookout for the others! Next week we will continue our discussions with the Teutons vs Vikings. Hope to see you there! :)

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    Previous discussions: Part 1 Part 2 (glhf Majike getting these new ones sorted out)

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    P.S. RIP Ornlu's Excel spreadsheet with all of the civ match ups neatly organized in a pretty chart (2017-2020)

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    Best easter egg in Definitive Edition

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 02:34 AM PST

    I can tell you rock, I can tell by your charm

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 04:25 PM PST

    BEHOLD

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 01:21 PM PST

    Which one of you lives in my friends apartment building?!

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 09:50 PM PST

    Update on my Roman v barbarian inspiration scenario. Please send suggestions for improvements

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 07:04 AM PST

    Post funded by Gang Weed

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 02:52 PM PST

    Genghis Khan Campaign Mission 3 - "Into China" | Hard Playthrough

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 03:29 AM PST

    Someone reached 2K on DE.

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 05:50 AM PST

    A Chinese player, I think Vivi but I'm not 100% sure since the name is in Chinese.

    submitted by /u/Ashur_Arbaces
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    My first time making a real world map. China and Korea and Japan. Any suggestions that I can use to make improvements?

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 09:29 AM PST

    This doubt is killing me

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 03:20 AM PST

    If an aztec player converts a stable and has a Beber ally, can that player produce atlatl genitours? Can they be upgraded to elite?

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    lego aoe2

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 12:32 PM PST

    "All techs but with civ bonuses" game mode?

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 04:41 AM PST

    Is that a thing? And if so where can I play it?

    If not... Can we make it a thing? I wanna make Japanese Eagle warriors. Or 20% cheaper Berber Paladins/Elephants... Whew.

    Or... Frankish PALADINS WITH BLOODLINES...

    See. Sounds fun doesn't it?

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    Happy New Year, everyone! On to a new decade....

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 06:42 AM PST

    Happy New Year r/aoe2

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 04:07 AM PST

    I hope this subreddit and AoE2 brings as much joy to you all in 2020 as it has done in 2019 and more

    See you in-game

    14!

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    Error message from AoE2:DE

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 07:41 AM PST

    Error message from AoE2:DE

    This may be Steam related instead, but it doesn't happen when I start other Steam games.

    Oddly, if I press okay the game will start and seems to load fine. But I get this error message every time.

    Also possibly related, I've tried to play two games so far and the first one crashed to desktop half way through (autosave did allow me to finish that single player game). The second game glitched within the first 20 seconds or so and totally froze (also single player).

    Does anyone have any ideas? I already tried "verify integrity of game files" and it said that everything was okay.

    https://preview.redd.it/zchbxoazt6841.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c2b46454e18e51262dc86a81c3bc00f157f641c

    submitted by /u/King_Jon
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    aoe2 de: tech tree.

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 07:36 AM PST

    Where is the in game tech tree? Is it not available unless youre IN THE GAME already?

    Me confuse!

    submitted by /u/Sionary
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    Best elephant civ? (aoe2HD)

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 07:12 AM PST

    hey reddit, just wondering which civ is the best when building around battle elephants, my personal favorite would be the Khmer with their extra attack but I've never given much thought on which one really is the best.

    thx in advance.

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    Twitch.tv !elo and !rank commands

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 07:00 AM PST

    Hi there, some of you may have seen me in twitch chat as blobiciously, I edited some elo and rank nightbot commands to check data from aoe2.net. A bunch of streamers have them already implemented but I will post them here so they are easier to find for other streamers.

    Features:
    - Without argument write hardcoded streamer's elo and rank. (!elo)
    - With argument write argument's elo and rank. (!elo theviper)
    - Error code "no response" if hardcoded call fails.
    - Error code "Error: User not found" if argumented call fails.
    - Can handle chinese characters due to use of querystring.
    - (Optional) can check for steam id in case you are not on top of the search (necessary for short names like Inc!=Vinch )

    Notes:
    - They can also poop out things like winrate and streak, if you want you can fiddle with that, just make sure to stay under 500 character limit of twitch chat. Or ask me. - Nightbot has around a 5 second timer for using the same command, sometimes it takes a bit longer. - Sometimes the hardcoded call does fail, but should not happen often, error catch is included just in case.

    Here they are without the steamid check (just change the hardcoded name to your aoe2 ign):
    https://pastebin.com/LV4z0D3R

    and then with the steamid check, this one is a bit closer to character limit (change hardcoded name AND steam id to yours):
    https://pastebin.com/GDgKfNpj

    Happy ny and as always: joejoe!
    <3

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    Ranking System explained?

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 06:39 AM PST

    Hi All,

    I'm fairly new to ranked play on AoE 2DE, just wondering how the ranking system works, i get the higher rating the better, but just asking more for a rough explination of how that rating is calculated? i.e pts per win/loss ect, and what factors are taking into consideration.

    Thanks

    submitted by /u/Confuniverse1
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    Limited Lobby Filters

    Posted: 01 Jan 2020 04:57 AM PST

    I don't see the point in the lobby filters, they're close to useless! Why not at the very least have a 'password' filter as in HD? Why can't I filter by map? Seems almost useless at this stage to be honest, and I'm sure its only a few lines of code to add.

    submitted by /u/Interweb_OD
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    It is baffling that DE doesn't have a reconnect feature

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 12:46 PM PST

    This was possibly the single most important thing they could have added. Just when I'm starting to win a hard-fought match, my teammate disconnects and is unable to come back. So many modern games have this feature!!

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    What's your favorite campaign and civ in DE, and what do you expect for the next year (or this year:)) about the future of DE?

    Posted: 31 Dec 2019 06:05 PM PST

    My last post on reddit so I´m curious about that.

    Mine are the Tatars for now (and Tamerlane campaign) due of the historical mystery of that civ, plus Tamerlane campaign is very funny (and a living meme).

    My expectations are that the game includes in the future:

    • Campaigns for the Byzantines (one about Belisarius, yes I know about Bari but we need one about the last Roman General) and one of the Slavs about Ivan III the great and the grat stand of the Ugra River.
    • Historical battle for Lithuanians (all talk about Grunwald but none about the Blue Waters (vs Tatars), that battle was key for them.
    • Difficulty sword for the historical battles as well medals.
    • Civ icons as player profiles.
    • more perfomance improvements.
    • More scenarios for the Art of War like Water strategies.

    That's all of my last post, and Happy new year.

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