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    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 10 Week 3: Lithuanians vs Slavs

    September 23, 2020

    Age of Empires II Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 10 Week 3: Lithuanians vs Slavs

    Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 10 Week 3: Lithuanians vs Slavs

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 09:18 PM PDT

    Did someone call for some northern crusades?

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    Hello and welcome back for another Age of Empires 2 civilization match up discussion! This is a series where we discuss the various advantages, disadvantages, and quirks found within the numerous match ups of the game. The goal is to collectively gain a deeper understanding of how two civilizations interact with each other in a variety of different settings. Feel free to ask questions, pose strategies, or provide insight on how the two civilizations in question interact with each other on any map type and game mode. This is not limited to 1v1 either. Feel free to discuss how the civilizations compare in team games as well! So long as you are talking about how the two civilizations interact, anything is fair game! Last week we discussed the Incas vs Mongols, and next up is the Lithuanians vs Slavs!

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    Lithuanians: Cavalry and Monk civilization

    • Start with +150f
    • Spearmen and Skirmishers move +10% faster
    • Each garrisoned relics gives Knights and Leitis +1 attack (max. +4)
    • TEAM BONUS: Monasteries work +20% faster
    • Unique Unit: Leitis (Ornlu's pick for #1 most OP unit right now)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Hill Forts (Town Centers +3 range)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Tower Shields (Spearmen and Skirmishers gain +0/+2 armor)

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    Slavs: Infantry and Siege civilization

    • Farmers work +10% faster
    • Supplies free
    • Siege Workshop units cost -15%
    • TEAM BONUS: Military buildings provide +5 population space
    • Unique Unit: Boyar (Heavily armored cavalry)
    • Castle Age Unique Tech: Orthodoxy (Monks +3/+3 armor)
    • Imperial Age Unique Tech: Druzhina (Infantry deal 5 trample damage)

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    Below are some match up-specific talking points to get you all started. These are just to give people ideas, you do not need to address them specifically if you do not want to!

    • Two sleeper top picks! For 1v1 Arabia, especially in the context of KotD and KotD Arabia, both of these civilizations are quite good. I wouldn't look at win rates too much (this is just the Ro64), but I do think pick rates are quite interesting. Lithuanians are a very common pick among top players for the more aggressive map. Slavs are good as well, although not quite as popular. Can Slavs survive early game pressure from Lithuanians and make it to late game?
    • For 1v1 Arena, again, both of these civs are very strong picks. Lithuanians have great aggressive options with monks, as well as a huge incentive to get relics. However, their otherwise incredible late game is heavily marred by the lack of good siege options. Meanwhile, Slavs take a bit longer to get up and running, but can boast one of the best booms in the game, as well as a formidable late game. Who do you favor in clown town?
    • As a pocket in a team game, again, both of these civs are sleeper top picks. For all the reasons talked about above, Lithuanians are going to have stronger pure-cavalry play, but Slavs will have a better economy, and can mix in very strong siege as needed. Which would you prefer?

    Thanks as always for participating! Next week we will continue our discussions with the Huns vs Vietnamese. Hope to see you there! :)

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    Previous discussions: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

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    Vote to Merge all Age of Empires 2 games and call the category "Age of Empires II" on Twitch

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 02:41 PM PDT

    Se stöörme!

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 08:25 PM PDT

    My recent experience playing ranked Team Games lately..

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 04:18 AM PDT

    Game Update 40874 - 22/9/2020

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 08:36 PM PDT

    Pause / unpausing

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 03:43 AM PDT

    Hey ho... I'm kind of frustrated. Do you think it's okay to not let your opponent pause the game ? It's happening to me more often the last weeks... Smb is ringing my door, I need like 30 sec and when I come back my opponent is raiding my eco -.- ... I'm thinking about to shame this people on reddit, to be honest ( sry, English is not my mother tongue )

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    Great mosque of Djenne

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 02:19 AM PDT

    I know its not impressive but its the start of a long journey

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 02:53 PM PDT

    MBL's candid interview with MembTV

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 01:58 AM PDT

    How many farmers do you need to keep producing villagers from 3 TCs?

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 04:56 AM PDT

    I feel my castle age boom is never quite fast enough, mostly due to going low on food until I hit 30 or so farmers, but what is the minimum number in order to keep producing villagers?

    Assuming a generic civ, no wheelbarrow but the mill technologies researched?

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    I hope the aoe2 in game mods will take reports of toxic players more seriously

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 04:23 AM PDT

    We all play games to relax, to have fun, nobody plays to get flamed or attacked. The higher the ELO the smaller the player pool gets and you end up playing with the same toxic players. These aren't quick rounds, you're often stuck in the game with the same people for 30+ minutes. Played 3 games tonight with nothing but toxic blaming and name calling in each and it's just bummed me out.

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    Casual - Barbarossa Brawl tips for bad players.

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 07:21 AM PDT

    Just starting a thread to share some tips. Pretty terrible player myself, but I do hunt for a lot of campaign achievements, and managed to get to 20+ mins fairly comfortably first attempt.

    1. Slow your gameplay down asap when the game starts. Normally its the minus button on keyboard.

    2. Build two more TCs, and a market (amongst other things next) and send starting scout to the Cumans in the far east of the map (same location as Barbarossa campaign 1), pay tribute once option appears. Dont bother attacking - its not necessary to get a pass mark.

    3. Tie the Cuman troops to a control group, they are your early game DPS, just send them around from castle to castle

    4. Focus heavily on a food and stone economy (with some gold for blacksmith upgrades). Build Death star Castles around your starting 'island' loaded with TKs/ETKs. Imp up once your new TCs are up and produced a few vils.

    5. Use Castles to snipe monks and mangonels, Unload TKs on rams and knights/melee. Have a small group of knights ready and build more at around the 12-15min mark for trebuchet sniping.

    6. Try to use buildings to keep your villagers walled in so they are relatively safe from the constant flow of enemies

    7. Dont panic - even if you re overwhelmed it still takes some minutes to take down your base so you can get the event bonuses.

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    Villager pathing after the patch

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 07:10 AM PDT

    I only had time to do one quick team game this morning and I observed a villager getting stuck with my tc. Yes. With my tc. That chick literally just walked against the solid part like a dumbass.

    Just to get a feel of what to expect before I play more, what's your experience so far?

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    Teuton Event. Thoughts?

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 12:03 AM PDT

    Best map generation -.-

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 08:36 AM PDT

    I like the KOTD3 map gen

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 08:14 PM PDT

    At least in my opinion, the meta has shifted way too far towards minor feudal pressure, full walls, go to castle and try to break. With the new KOTD3 map gen having bad (for the player) woodlines, it makes feudal pressure much more important and the games much faster pace. The alternative to this is same ole same ole wall up and turn arabia into arena. Anyone agree? Twitch chat seems to be very anti-KOTD map gen. Maybe admin re if woodline is like...halfway accross the map

    submitted by /u/danaconda1645
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    Unable to join party

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    Can form a ranked party in multiplayer. Im on steam, friend on mstore. Anyone has same problem?

    submitted by /u/LetsGetLostNow
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    Sorry, not sorry

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 02:08 PM PDT

    Barbarossa Brawl scenario is not easy, please give tips to improve score,

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 12:50 AM PDT

    Spirit of the Law on Healing Value

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 11:10 AM PDT

    3v3 Pause Guys

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 06:02 AM PDT

    This has happened to me three times now and I need a better explanation.

    I play mostly 3v3. I have encountered two players that seem to be controlling all three of the opponents at once. They have the same user name with slight differences. They always ask for a pause, to which most of the community obliges.

    Is my understanding correct that they have 3 computers and 3 accounts and control all three civs simultaneously? The only time my team won was when one of our players refused to let the pause happen and they resigned. The other two times, we were dominated. What gives?

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    Huns didn't have atheism.

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 08:42 AM PDT

    That's atheist propaganda pushed by Microsoft with an agenda that also includes depopulation and banning cash so they can control you better.

    The more in touch with nature, the more likely you are to believe in spirits.

    If modern North Korea were in an empires game, then you can talk about atheism. They don't call their dear leader a literal god, just an ideal man.

    More atheist propaganda: "Empty the church," "Erectus" (macro-evolution propaganda supporting the notion of subhuman Negroids like Lucy, a reference to LVCIFER, the author of these lies).

    Those who accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist will have to look in the mirror. Do they not believe in the theory about the Black Hand setting off World War I? Do they not believe in the conspiracy to rebel against Britain for the independence of the 13 British colonies in North America?

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    Apparently anyone can be rank 1 (more in comments)

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 10:08 PM PDT

    How to make twitch overlay?

    Posted: 22 Sep 2020 11:55 PM PDT

    Anyone willing to share info on how to make running scoreboard (rez, techs, score, et cetera) for streaming? Like what Memb has. I know there's a ton of work behind it, just looking to be pushed in the right direction. I am cluelesssssssssssssss

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    Let's decide the best campaign once and for all.

    Posted: 23 Sep 2020 06:36 AM PDT

    Pick your favourite campaign:

    View Poll

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